Tuesday, April 14, 2020
Applying for a Job Your Friend Applied For Too
Applying for a Job Your Friend Applied For Too Q: What are the ethics of applying for a job that a friend wants? Youâve said before that no one can âstealâ a job. But what about when you apply for an opening that you only know about because a colleague told you that he applied for it? I just finished a graduate program. I was older than most of my classmates by 10+ years. With a several-year absence from the workforce before the program, Iâm being considered for roles more junior than my last one. I am willing to take a step back in order to work again. But a few months ago I didnât expect Iâd be going after the same jobs as younger classmates. A school friend has not found work and has been frustrated. He told me about finally getting a phone interview, and said the company will tell him if heâll move on based on how the other interviews go. I looked at the listing to see what I could suggest to him. This job really calls for more experience than he has, but itâs a good match for me. I really only looked at it to give him some resume suggestions. The job calls for a lot of the skills I developed over my career. I applied for it today and am feeling guilty, but probably not quite bad enough that Iâll decline an interview if offered. I would feel slightly better if he had been turned down outright, but he is being put on hold until they see if they have better candidates, so my applying could mean that he gets bumped from the in-person interviews. How do you handle it when you find out about something this way? I really do admire his confidence and drive, and I donât want to be disrespectful of someone who has been a school friend and might be a colleague someday in our small industry. We donât socialize but are still friendly enough to share news. A: Ooof. Itâs true that you canât steal a job from someone, but itâs also true that this probably isnât going to feel great to him. In particular, the fact that the company told him theyâre waiting to see if someone better comes along makes it more likely that heâll feel like your application (if it results in you getting an interview, while he doesnât) did indeed bump him out of consideration. Thatâs of course how all hiring works, even if they hadnât spelled it out for him quite like that; a stronger candidate can always bump someone else out of contention. But itâs still going to sting. Video Player is loading.Play VideoPlayMuteCurrent Time 0:00/Duration 0:00Loaded: 0%Stream Type LIVESeek to live, currently playing liveLIVERemaining Time -0:00 Playback Rate1xChaptersChaptersDescriptionsdescriptions off, selectedCaptionscaptions and subtitles off, selectedAudio TrackFullscreenThis is a modal window.Beginning of dialog window. Escape will cancel and close the window.TextColorWhiteBlackRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyOpaqueSemi-TransparentBackgroundColorBlackWhiteRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyOpaqueSemi-TransparentTransparentWindowColorBlackWhiteRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyTransparentSemi-TransparentOpaqueFont Size50%75%100%125%150%175%200%300%400%Text Edge StyleNoneRaisedDepressedUniformDropshadowFont FamilyProportional Sans-SerifMonospace Sans-SerifProportional SerifMonospace SerifCasualScriptSmall CapsReset restore all settings to the default valuesDoneClose Modal DialogEnd of dialog window.PlayMuteCurrent Time 0:00/Duratio n 0:00Loaded: 0%Stream Type LIVESeek to live, currently playing liveLIVERemaining Time -0:00 Playback Rate1xFullscreen He also might feel like you only knew about the job because he told you about it and think that you therefore should have considered it off-limits. Thatâs not entirely reasonable â" youâre both in need of work, and youâre in the same field, and thereâs a finite number of job openings â" but itâs also not entirely unreasonable for him to feel like thereâs something kind of unseemly about it anyway. But hereâs the thing: Itâs going to feel a lot more underhanded if you donât tell him now and then you get offered and accept the job and need to tell him then. Because of that, I think the best thing you can do is come clean now, or at least at the point that you get an interview. Itâs going to be awkward, but itâs better to say âHey, I feel awkward about this, but I want to let you know that I threw my hat in the ring for the X jobâ than to have to say later on âUm, that job that youâve been hoping to hear about? Iâve been secretly talking with them for the last month, and now theyâve offered it to me.â Of course, no matter when you tell him, he might be bitter, resentful, or even think you screwed him over, and there might not be anything that you can do about that if so. But itâll be a more principled stand â" and more likely to get you a better outcome â" if youâre honest with him now than if you wait. Telling him now says âI know this isnât great, but as new grads in this field, we are competing for the same jobsâ (which he might take issue with, but reasonable people could at least argue it either way), whereas waiting says âI hid this from you as long as I could because I felt like I was doing something shadyâ (and that makes it shady). Q: Is it okay to leave tasks off a resume that you donât want to do anymore in the future? I work as an administrative assistant, but Iâm thinking of changing fields/jobs in the next year or so. Iâm doing quite a bit of accounting tasks now, but I never ever want to do that again. An das much as I keep saying that those things really arenât something Iâm good at or like to do, when managers see accounting experience they just assume I wonât really mind â" I do. Iâm thinking of just leaving those off when I apply somewhere else, but Iâm not sure thatâs smart. It does say something about my attention to detail and thoroughness, but I intend to stay as far away from numbers and figures as possible if and when I change jobs. In short: should I include it and mention when asked that I donât really like those tasks or should I just skip it all together? A: If that work is only a small portion of what you do in your current job, then sure, leave it off. A resume is a marketing document, after all, and thereâs no point in marketing yourself for work you donât want to be doing. More From Ask a Manager: My friend is a terrible coworker How to decline to be a reference My reference is an ex But if itâs a major part of your job, it would be pretty strange to leave it off entirely. In that case, youâre better off getting really clear in the interview about whether the job contains accounting work â" and raising it again when you get an offer, to make sure the hiring manager is fully on board with keeping accounting work off of your plate. These questions are adapted from ones that originally appeared on Ask a Manager. Some have been edited for length.
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